3 naked ladies talk about their view from the stages and laps of the 70′s, 80′s, 90′s and today.
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17 NAKED LADIES, round 4: 1.13.10
The last Gang Bang
with Annie, Tracy, Carol, Jennifer, Nina, Betty & on & on…
advice for the new kids on the block from the girls who’ve been around
Georgina Spelvin: Insist on condoms and save your money. Oh, and this is for everybody, not just sex workers, moisturize! All over. Every day.
Kelly Hayworth: You’re probably thinking you are different; you may consider yourself an “unlikely stripper.” You are not.
Antonia Crane: Stay sane and sober while doing your job and I swear you’ll make ten times the cash you made drunk or high. Promise.
Tracy Quan: Is it kind of pompous to give advice to the new girls? So here’s one thing I feel strongly about: don’t feel guilty about lying. Nobody is entitled to know what you do. Lying about it is one of our traditions.
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16 NAKED LADIES, round 3: 1.06.10
Gang Bang with Zoe Hansen, Tracy Quan, Carol Queen, Nina Hartley, Caty Simon & on & on…
If you could turn back time, would you do it again?
Jodi Sh. Doff: Sure. Knowing what I know today, in a heartbeat. I’d put a major chunk of change away right off the top, investing it in real estate. I’d drink less, say “No” more often and take lots of photographs.
Nina Hartley: Yes, definitely. I’d have left my first husband ten years earlier and have married Ernest that much sooner.
Lauri Shaw: I would’ve done it differently. I realized just how much of this ending is unresolved for me. I quit ten years ago believing I needed to do something more “legitimate” with my life. Having regrets is frankly incompatible with the woman I think I am. And so I’ve decided to return to the front lines after all these years.
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16 NAKED LADIES, round 2: 12.30.09
Our holiday Gang Bang with Annie Sprinkle, Tracy Quan, Carol Queen, Nina Hartley, Zoe Hansen & on & on…
How do we feel about our sons and brothers being tricks and clients?
Nina Hartley: Professionals are people, too, so treat them with respect. Pay for their time and ability. Speak clearly and ask for what you want.
Kelly Hayworth: I’d be fine with it–as long as he wasn’t acting like a jerk. I would want him to understand that if he goes to a strip club and the girls seem to really like him, that’s because they’re working..
Tracy Quan: I have two brothers, and would be surprised if they’ve never paid for sex. Of course, I want my brothers to have commercial adventures only where they won’t be arrested.
Annie Sprinkle: Why would I have a problem? Paying for sex isn’t that different than getting a massage, a pedicure, or a gourmet meal. I’d want him to know that he needs to have the utmost respect, even reverence, for the woman, man or tranny whore that he’s with. And leave a really big tip..
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15 NAKED LADIES, round 1: 12.23.09
the end of year Gang Bang with Annie Sprinkle, Tracy Quan, Carol Queen, Candida Royalle, Nina Hartley, Betty Dodson & on & on…
When it’s all said and done do you want your daughter to work in the business today?
LZ Hansen: I’ve always said that if my daughter were to become a prostitute I’d probably be fine with it. If I knew she could handle it like I did.
Nina Hartley: No. It’s undergoing massive changes (but) the stigma of being in porn is still pretty common. I’d like to think that I’d raise her to be grounded sexually but to keep it to herself and make her mark in the world.
Kelly Hayworth: It is not something I would necessarily wish for, but I wouldn’t be opposed to my daughter working in the sex industry. I think that it could be a positive thing for her: character building—it was for me.
Tracy Quan: If I had a daughter? I’d want her to be a CPA. It’s the only occupation I can think of that seems safe enough for a child of mine to pursue. The business is just one of many industries that would scare the daylights out of me if it were my daughter.
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HEBREW HUSSIES: 12.16.09
with guest Jessica Pauline, the Tinseltown Tease
Jessica Pauline: I always knew that nice Jewish girls value their minds way before their bodies. Obviously, that’s a totally respectable value system, but because of it I always felt terrified that if anyone from my hometown (or home synagogue, God forbid) found out that I was stripping they’d think that I was doing something stupid, which is the cardinal sin for suburban middle-class Jews.
Lauri Shaw: It definitely had a big impact on my sexuality. I got pushed so hard in one direction, I exploded in the other. I reveled in being an outlaw slut. At the same time, I never admitted to anyone in the clubs that I was Jewish.
Jodi Sh. Doff: I don’t agree at all about the sexuality – it’s not like Catholics are all, Go ahead kids, screw around, it’s fun! I grew surrounded by Italian & Irish retired cops and fireman. We were one of the few Jewish families. I’d hear “The only way to stop a Jewish woman from fucking is marry her,” but I heard it from my own father.
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PLAN B: 12.9.09
with guest Candida Royalle
Candida Royalle: I didn’t get in to the sex biz until I was 24, nearly 25. I’d been training in dance for many years, living and performing with some really freaky people, some of the original Cockettes and Angels of Light…but I needed to pay rent, so when I was 24 I answered an ad for nude modeling. The agent asked me if I was interested in being in a porn film. I’d never even seen one and stormed out.
Jodi Sh. Doff: I’d grown up on Shindig, Hullaballo and then Laugh-In. That’s where I got my ideas about life as a go-go dancer–that was the term in the 70s. I thought I’d be a cross between the hip, swinging stewardesses of “Coffee, Tea or Me” and Xaviera Hollander’s Happy Hooker.
Lauri Shaw: The whole time I was dancing, I couldn’t see more than 24 hours into the future. Half the time I wasn’t even working at the same club from one night to the next. I didn’t know what my average earnings were. I didn’t know how far I’d have to drive to get at those earnings. The most forward thinking I ever did was to maybe bag a sandwich for my next shift!
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NASTY GIRLS: 12.2.09
with guest Antonia Crane
Lauri Shaw: I won’t lie — I went home with a few of the younger guys who didn’t have money. Especially when I first started dancing. I liked that it was my choice, rather than economic necessity, to have sex with someone. It made me feel powerful, like I was the one who called the shots.
Antonia Crane: When I first started dancing, I only dated women — men were not invited to the party. The confusing thing was, I’d still get turned on by men sometimes. It surprised and shamed me until I got comfortable with myself. I was attracted to fat men, cripples.
Jodi Sh. Doff: And BOOM! Turned on vs. Attracted. The stuff I don’t like to admit. I got turned on by guys I’d never be with in real life. Mama’s boys, Hasidic Jews, middle-class whiny civilians.
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WORK SPACE: 11.25.09
with guest Kelly Hayworth
Jodi Sh. Doff: In the 70s & 80s I danced on stage and hustled drinks on the floor. There was a difference in the feelings of security & power. I felt safer, emotionally, on stage with that distance from the customer. And once again I’m grateful I got out before lap dancing caught on.
Lauri Shaw: The amount of contact and privacy varied from club to club. Some lap dances you could straddle the customer backwards or forwards, rub your knee in his crotch, he could touch anywhere but your tits, ass or crotch. You essentially dry-humped the guy and often right out in the open. I hated that, but as with everything else, you get used to it.
Kelly Hayworth: In London it was fully nude walking around the pub floor for a song, going up to each customer–giving everyone attention. You wouldn’t think so but, it’s actually where I felt safest.
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SLIGHTLY IRREGULAR: 11.18.09
with guest LZ Hansen
LZ Hansen: I had this guy who’d come to the whore house to see me three times a day, always wearing the same dirty Yankee jacket. He didn’t have a lot of money but he’d hang out for hours talking or fetching us snacks. He was a nice guy and we took advantage of that. Turned out he was living in his car!
Jodi Sh Doff: Look, we all know, there’s Us, and then there’s Them. David worked at the racetrack, claimed he was doping horses and thought that made him “down”. Civilians who tried to be part of the crowd, I hated them. I’d take everything I could and teach them a lesson.
Lauri Shaw: BDSM Guy had been clean & sober for 20 years until he met me. I refused to be around him unless he got me high. I walk out of the Carousel Club one freezing winter night and find BDSM Guy lurking next to my car… he had blow caked all over his mustache. I may have been responsible for his relapse.
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HAPPY ENDINGS: 11.11.09
with guest Antonia Crane
Jodi Sh. Doff: I’ve been on the phone with a friend I used to dance with. She never could make the transition to the straight world. Eventually we all get too old or too fed up to do the work, then what? She’s struggling with possible eviction.
Lauri Shaw:I was terrified that would happen to me. I tried to quit stripping dozens of times, kept running out of money and going back.
Antonia Crane: After throwing money around for over ten years, I managed to pay the tuition I owed Mills College and finish my BA. I needed $7,800. With determination and the strong will that only another stripper can understand, that year, I saved 10k.
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CLASS ACT: 11.04.09
with guest Georgina Spelvin
Lauri Shaw: What stopped me from doing porn was, I was afraid my father or my brother might inadvertently stumble on the material. Once someone takes a picture of you, you can’t control where it ends up, and it lives forever…
Georgina Spelvin: When I did my first hard core film, I didn’t know it was to be hard core until we got to that scene. At the time, it was $100 a day that was sorely needed to pay the rent on the Pickle Factory. That was all I was thinking about. Trying to remake the world through underground films
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TEACHER’S PETS: 10.28.09
with guest the Educated Tart
Jodi Sh Doff: In the 70’s, women who went to graduate school were few and far between. My fancy pants community college degree made me the “smart” girl in the strip clubs.
Lauri Shaw: I mean, I knew some undergrads. Not many. And Tart, you’re a stripper with an MA? Are people surprised? Do they think you should have moved on by now?
The Educated Tart: It’s usually the customers who try to make me feel like that. “What’s a nice girl like you doing in a place like this?”
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COMING OUT: 10.21.09
with guest Essence Alexander
Lauri Shaw: I never had a good relationship with either of (my parents). Stripping was probably beside the point. As a child, I got my ass beat for eating non-kosher food. So anything at ALL having to do with sex? Are you fucking kidding me? I was out of that house by the time I was 15.
Jodi Sh. Doff: Just the opposite, my dad had worked in the burlesque houses and the carnival side shows, so I somehow thought down ‘n dirty was my birthright..
Essence Alexander: Writing was the catalyst for me telling my mother that I stripped. I had been writing my show about stripping…
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GIRLY SHOW: 10.14.09
Rachel Aimee: Lots of lesbians work in strip clubs these days. They’re usually femmes, but not always.
Lauri Shaw: I met plenty of dancers who fucked girls, but fewer that identified as lesbians.
Jodi Sh. Doff: Real girl on girl action was a different story. At the Mardi Gras, Cheryl the bartender was a total butch dyke and her girl, Roxy, danced there. I don’t think you see that anymore, stone dykes working straight strip clubs.
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FRESH MEAT: 10.07.09
Lauri Shaw: I was wearing someone else’s dress & shoes two sizes too big. They pushed me right out on stage. I was terrified. I’d been an elaborate practical joke (but) in the end, I had the last laugh–I stayed for the rest of the shift and made $300 in just a few hours.
Rachel Aimee: I was so naïve I took a stripping class before I auditioned, (my) outfit included a skirt, button down shirt, stockings, and even a cardigan… They tried to get me to at least lose the cardigan but I almost started crying, saying I had to wear the outfit I’d practiced in or I’d forget my routine!
Jodi Sh. Doff: I borrowed a nasty g-string and a pair of heels as well, and suddenly I was the center of the world, lights flashed, everything switched from black & white to Technicolor and I was beautiful.
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LUSH LIFE: 9.30.09
Rachel Aimee: Stripping can be a really difficult job to do sober… I know plenty of girls who’ve gotten seriously into drink and drugs because of the pressure of the job. At the same time, I hate to propagate those stereotypes about stripping messing up people’s lives, because I also encounter plenty of Wall Street bankers whose jobs are clearly driving them to drugs too.
Jodi Sh. Doff: Tried it sober. Couldn’t do it.
Lauri Shaw: Listen, stripping doesn’t make girls into addicts, but it’s an environment where it’s more acceptable to be off your face than, say, an office. It’s also easier to procure your favorite high there than it would be in the 9-5 world. That combination can be the tipping point for someone who already has tendencies.
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GUY CANDY : 9.23.09
Rachel Aimee: So many strippers have problems dating because most people—not just men—who date strippers either want them to quit the business…
Jodi Sh. Doff: Oh God, save us from the Captain Save-A-Hos of the world!
RA: …or want to take their money, or both. I know it’s a stereotype but I’ve seen it again and again
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CASH MONEY : 9.16.09
Lauri Shaw: In 1997, I averaged $2200/week, four nights. Good hustlers could make $1000/night. Never mind what they promised the customers or did in the back rooms — we’re only talking about money, right?
Rachel Aimee: The stigma around dancing really fuels the clubs’ ability to charge house fees. Dancers exaggerate how much money they make, because we have to justify doing a job that most people think is degrading.
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DOLL PARTS : 9.09.09
Jodi Sh. Doff: The top shelf joints of the 90’s seemed like an Evening Gown Barbie factory. I know it’s a response to public demand, but some girls considered implants a reasonable work expense, like a uniform. I couldn’t have gone to those surgical extremes.
Lauri Shaw: I mostly avoided those evening gown clubs. I’d need more than just a boob job to look like Barbie…. I couldn’t relate. By contrast, the nude clubs were an easier environment.
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HOT LUNCHES : 9.02.09
Rachel Aimee: I think there’s this myth among dancers that the industry is “going downhill” and that dancers across the board are expected to do more than they used to do. I know women who have been working since the 90s and refer to that decade as the “golden age of stripping,”…
Lauri Shaw: Yes, and in the 90s there were girls who said the same thing about the 80s.
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